Episode 22 – Indie Development by the Numbers

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This week we discuss the recent app incomes published for Overcast by Marco Arment, Monument Valley and Dash. We discuss various ways to quote on jobs in mind of studio and indie development. We also cover the topsy turvy view of app and UI design in Asian markets. Our picks for the week are Swap Heroes,  Curved Labs Macintosh Facelift and Anki Drive. In the after show Jaime, Tim and Aaron discuss traveling to the NSNorth conference to be held at Le Chateau Montebello, PQ.

Episode 22 Show Notes:

Overcast Sales Numbers
Monument Valley in Numbers
Dash – year in review
Core Intuition
Release Notes
Chinese Mobile App UI Trends
Everything’s a Remix
2life
2life Ultimate Wedding Planner
NSNorth – iOS Conference
RWDevcon
12 inch Macbook Air Redesign Rumor
The Other App Store

Episode 22 Show Picks:

Swap Heroes
Curved Labs Macintosh Facelift
Anki Drive

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  1. Thanks for the info about app incomes. The numbers are really interesting. I have seen this post by Monument Valley creators. At last someone has come up with a post that shows the actual hard work behind app development and how much effort it takes to get to the top. I have read dozens of interviews with the developers of successful Apple apps and in most cases they claim that anyone can build a hugely popular app and become a millionaire. For example, here a guy called Chad Mureta says that he neither had a coding experience nor much money, when he developed his app that made him a millionaire.
    But have you heard of a so-called survivorship bias?
    We look up to the ones who survived, who achieved success, but we cannot see the ones who failed, we never come across their stories.
    Even reputable professional mobile development companies usually cannot boast more than one app that made it to the top. For example, here
    here they say that they are seven years in the business, and I am sure that they know their stuff and are hugely experienced, but still there is only one project in their portfolio that they describe as “1 million profit”.
    I believe that to be able to achieve your goal, you have to pay much more attention to the mistakes made by those who failed, rather than make yourself stale by reading delusory success stories.

    • timmitra says:

      Thanks for your feedback. We have had many follow up conversations on the topic of success in app development. There are also the “famous” app developers who found early fame and fortune who maintain that “anyone can build a successful app” but to me that’s like saying anyone can write a hit song. Youtube is littered with singers trying to be discovered, but only a very small percentage actually will. Very small indeed.
      The app market has matured so the quest for fortune in app development is the same as it is in any business. It has to be approached like one. Strategy and marketing are the keys to building any any business along with a compelling product or service as well. Personally I have taken a step back from trying to be indie. I have gone and got an actually job as a developer and only maintain a few apps. I no longer feel that I can reach for the indie ring. I now can make apps for fun and live off my job.
      If you can handle the lifestyle of being an entrepreneur or can downsize your lifestyle, move out of the big city then maybe you can be happy as an indie developer. There are other ways to participate in the lifestyle. Go to meetups, attend conferences, start a podcast, network collaborate with other designers and developers. Start charging real money for your work. I’m sure that there is the next Justin Beiber waiting to be discovered on Youtube or Soundcloud, but we may never know because there is too much noise.
      I will take a look at your links, and share your feedback with my cohosts. Come on over to the podcast’s web site at http://www.mtjc.fm

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